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warning. because the other side is counting on the democrats disparing, the right wing voting d the independent voter forgetting. that's "hardball" for now. "countdown" with keith olbermann starts right now. which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow? the arizona governor's debate or jan brewer's meltdown. >> we have done everything that we could possibly do. we have -- >> and those were the prepared remarks. then there was the post debate news conference, all about her comments about headless torsos. >> do you still believe that? come on, governor. >> okay, thank y'all.
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>> oh! >> strange brew and the met forof the headless torso for the gop. the deliberate push to demonize education and intelligence. the defyication of w. ex-press's aide for a failed presidency. folks long for his steadying hand and miss his warmth and empathy. we momentarily saw our fear reflected back in the president's eyes. we saw his resolve and took comfort in his strength. we will -- well, cut that to ribbons. the doj investigates the isl islam-fobbic attack. >> now you're calling university's re-detection camps
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l. ron hubbard. the governor whose own state would vote against him. with "i love health reform" on his back or a mustache you can believe in. john bolton for president? before you roll your eyes, think of the republican debates. >> if israel's going to do anything against bushir, it has to move in the next eight days. >> all the news and commentary now you on "countdown." >> the americans are craving something new. good evening from new york. even though a federal judge gutted the key provisions of arizona's papers please immigration law, new polling suggest arizonans still approve of it and like the woman who signed it into law. last tuesday, jan brewer ran away with her state's republican
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primary. last night she ran away from the media in her fifth debate. not only was she unprepared to deliver her prepared statement. but her evening ended when she bolted from reporters asking about her own claims of decapitated torsos in the arizona desert. headless bodies and clueless governors. last night was the first and one expects the last between jan brewer and terry goddard and the libertarian and green party challenges. brewer leading by as much as 20 points in recent polling. all she had to do last night was play keep away. instead, during her opening remarks, she got more lost than bobby and cindy brady in the grand canyon. >> finally we hear from jan brewer. >> thank you, ted. it's great to be here with larry, barry and terry. thank you all for watching us tonight.
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i have -- done so much. i just cannot believe that we have changed everything since i've become your governor in the last 600 days. arizona has been brought back from its abyss. we have cut the budget. we have balanced the budget and we are moving forward. we have done everything that we could possibly do. we have -- did what was right for arizona. i will tell you that i really did the very best that anyone could do. >> since i behad come -- unfortunately for brewer that ten-second period of silence might have been her most effective use of time all night. her claim of a balanced budget was false. brewer's democratic opponent took her to task for the budget
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lie. he also went after the governor for her anti-immigrant fear mongering over the summer when she was claiming they needed sb-1070 to prevent beheadings in the desert. >> which beheadings were you referring to? >> law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert, either buried or lying out there that have been beheaded. >> coroners and law enforcement have no records of beheadings in arizona. last night, brewer's democratic opponent to retract her claim because it continues to scare people and business away from the state. >> jan, i call you upon you today to say that there are no beheadings. that was a fails statement and it needs to be cleared up right now. >> terry, i will call you out. i think that you ought to renounce your support and endorsement of the unions that are boycotting our state. >> which is kind of symmetrical
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because he didn't endorse the boycott. the debate ended with the bizarre post debate press conference. she fielded question after question about headless bodies in the desert. >> governor, why won't you recant the comment you made earlier about the beheadings in the desert? >> seriously, that's a serious question, governor. >> this was an interesting evening tonight. of course, you saw a complete display of the difference between myself and terry goddard. we will continue to move forward. >> governor, seriously, the fact is if you're talking about -- you were complaining about terry goddard and unions and people not coming to the state. maybe people aren't coming here because you're making comments about headless bodys. >> the big thing that didn't happen tonight was terry goddard never gave us a plan. terry goddard has never had a plan.
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if he has, he hasn't shared it. it's about time he steps up and brings us a plan. being governor is not an easy job, terry. you need to get your plan out. >> what about the headless bodies? >> will you please answer the question, governor? >> why won't you recant that? do you still believe that? >> okay, thank you all. >> oh, come on! >> i'm joined by paul waldman with prospect magazine. isn't any campaign for any office in our land in some trouble if its candidate is to had are this question, what about the headless bodies? >> not necessarily. that's not the only crazy thing she has said about this issue. she said most undocumented immigrants who come to america are drug mules. but as long as people in arizona are talking about the crazy things jan brewer has said about
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illegal immigration, if nothing else, they're still talking about illegal immigration, which is the issue she wants this election to be all about. so although it doesn't necessarily put her in the best light, that's one thing that does do for her. >> the governor did respond to the headless torso question. she did the radio interview today and said the bottom line is, there have been beheadings in the border region in mexico. does that settle it politically, or politically speaking, are the headless bodies still alive? >> that's not going to satisfy the reporters and it really shouldn't. she didn't say there were headless bodies in mexico. she said there were headless bodies in arizona, the state she's governing. the politically smart thing to do when you make a mistake like that, is to say, you know what, i was mistaken. i was wrong. everybody will move on. when you're literally fleeing from reporters, it will make them more eager to pin you down. >> now putting the two statements together, it appears headless bodies are illegally
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crossing the border from mexico to arizona. it's more of a problem than if she said, i screwed up. the start of this, the lack of preparation. she allowed that her pause did not constitute her finest hour. if you are a resident of arizona and your governor freezes for are ten seconds and can't talk for two minutes about her accomplishments with a script in front of her, even in arizona, could this hurt a campaign? >> brewer was something of an accidental governor. in arizona, they don't have a lieutenant governor. when janet napolitano became secretary of homeland security, brewer was in charge of elections. she ended up becoming governor. she wasn't necessarily all that prepared. but, you know, unfortunately, people don't always vote for the candidate who they think is the smartest or the most competent. politics tends to be much more about things like identity. and as long as jan brewer can be
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the anti-immigrant candidate, she's going to be in a good position. >> she has not taken the debate. she's confirmed there will be no more debates with terry goddard before november. is it plausible this did anything seriously to her 20-point lead or did she wrap-up the election by not saying anything further? >> before she signed sb-1070, her approval ratings were in the 40s. the latest polls show her with a double-digit lead over goddard. it will take something dramatic to push him to victory. perhaps as long as she can keep her mouth shout, she'll be safe. >> nuclear-fueled zombies. i'm beneath that's your game changer in arizona. >> thank you. >> let's get meta with howard fi fineman, msnbc political analyst. >> that's quite a challenge. i think i'm up to it. >> i'm going to start with the
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obvious question. what about the headless bodies? >> we're talking about candidates? >> yes in a meta sense, yeah. >> here's the thing to get meta. we have the wrong paradigm here. you and i and a lot of our viewers are thinking of candidates running for office, having debates that they care about, worrying whether they're answering reporters' questions or not in the hallway. that's no longer the paradigm, at least with a lot of the tea party candidates, and indeed a lot of other candidates, democrat and republican i'm afraid to say. in the age of twitter and facebook, in an age of fox and independent spending campaigns, and in an age when most of the american people are highly distrustful of the media in general, i think the tea party candidates -- and i put jan brewer in that category -- basically try to make a virtue out of not answering any questions. and indeed, her silence in the debate -- that may be the new paradigm for how you to handle
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debates. i don't know. we're kind of knocking on the glass on the outside. and the question for these candidates, keith, is it's september 2nd. can they go from september 2nd to november 2nd without dealing with the press? that's what many of them are trying to do. whether it's rand paul or jan brewer or sharron angle, you name it. sarah palin was the template for this. they're following it. >> how did stupid get to be a badge of honor such or are we kidding ourselves suggesting this is new? >> i think we're kidding ourselves to some extent. i hate to keep bringing up kentucky. we used to cover a congressman who went by the name old pumpkin head. he was not one of the sharpest knives in the drawer in the congress. of course it's not new. what's happening right now is barack obama came in with a wave of rhodes scholars and we've got the best and the brightest of the new generation. i'm barack obama, and i went to colombia and harvard, et cetera. out in the country where people
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are afraid and worried about employment and looking for some power that be to attack, whether it's wall street or the government or the education, they're going to go after them. that's what's happening right now. barack obama gave credentials a bad name in the eyes of these people. >> but it's an aggressive attack on education. some of these people want to dismantle the department of education. several of the commentators have been claiming that universities are dangerous in terms of indoctrine as terrorists are. these are commentators who flunked out of universities. is there an actual contempt for the fancy book learning, or is this a political thing exclusively? >> i think it's a little of both. we have periods in our history -- and this is one of them -- where people are lashing out in all directions. where the conservative movement is once again focusing on the universities. this isn't new either. this goes all the way back to
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william f. buckley half a century ago and god and man at yale. the idea that the universities, great citadels of learning were fonts of secularism and anti-religious thinking. there's a lot of that out there right now. it gives space for frankly uneducated candidates to get away with attacking the press rather than showing what they know. with a lot of the new candidates from the tea party, a few months ago, they were complete obscu obscuri obscurities, didn't have a background whatsoever. now they've been dragged on to the public stage. they don't want to talk to us, meaning reporters, and unlike a generation ago, when they felt some duty to speak and to answer questions, sarah palin and others have taken the route of saying, we're not answering your questions because you're part of the enemy. and so be it. and that's going to be the dynamic from now through november 2nd. >> the irony, of course, is the
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tea party would consume and eat william f. buckley before midnight. >> that is true. >> howard fineman, headless torso expert for the evening. >> thank you, keith. >> the new meaning for the 1850s political party, the no-nothings began to form under president george w. bush. this month's news from iraq has inspired bushies to defy their man. got into one of the most expensive schools in the country! [ male announcer ] when stress gives you heartburn with headache... alka-seltzer gives you relief fast. [ low male ] plop, plop. [ high male ] fizz, fizz.
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former bush adviser's journalistically dishonest comment to president bush. he tries to canonize the greatest republican president of this century. what happened to him was a hate crime. it might turn out to be a true federal crime. we will read from the book of frank glenn graham.
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yea, do not believe thy education. trusteth only in evangelicsevan. just think of this man as the half governor. ahead on "countdown." a consumers digest best buy. they like that chevy backs the quality with a one-hundred-thousand mile powertrain warranty. they're not just trading in, they're trading up. qualified lessees now get a low mileage lease on this malibu ls for around one ninety-nine a month. call for details. the switch begins at chevydealer.com.
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two hours after president obama gave his oval office speech on iraq, former bush political adviser mark mckinnon posted a comment called the shadow over obama's address. he maeld headlines when he refused to attack obama during the 2008 campaign. but he claims that the shadow over obama's address is cast by
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the superior presidency of george w. bush. mr. mckinnon is the latest to embrace the question of those billboards of president bush asking, you miss me yet. lord no, hello, a thousand times no. perhaps as an homage as to how the bush presidency made a case for war, he claims that obama wonders at the fickle nature of a seemingly ungrateful nature. obama, tea partiers should thank me for tax breaks. not nation, tea partiers. time, mckinnon also writes is softening judgment on bush's legacy. the link there to one analyst's opinion that the last two years, quote, potentially could put bush in a better light. bush's handling of katrina is more popular in a louisiana poll than obama's handling of the bp
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spill. the link there goes to an article pointing out that louisiana is a republican state and many who would have favored obama were not counted in the poll. why? because they no longer live in louisiana. 1,600 of them no longer live at all. while obama's approval rating has fallen 20 points since 2009, bush's has climbed ten points. 52%, which would be a majority, approve of obama. the toughest of bush's critics, including maureen o'dowd, joe klein acknowledge an occasional pining for bush 43. all four said bush should be doing something he currently refuses to do, come out publicly now you in defense of the proposed islamic center near ground zero. all four presuming of course bush would defend it.
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yes, klein, column is titled, missing george w. if mckinnon had read the article, he would see the first sentence says, not really. the people spoke first, mckinnon claims. this big board he claims. who put it up? people, just people. business people. is there any other kind? why do people supposedly miss mr. bush? bush reduced the deficit from 412 billion to 162 billion in 2007. as if bush had a three-year presidency. he links to a graph which blames the 2009 deficit on obama. quote, folks long for his steady hand. they miss his warmth and emthree. >> we see his steadying hand expressing his warmth and empathy and here as well.
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we see him joking warmly about the absence of wmd in iraq. a lie for which under his steadying hand 4,427 americans have already died. we have seen these attributes since he left the white house. here he is in haiti and wiping off some warmth on to bill clinton's shirt. >> we knew who he was. he was firm. in fact, bush was a liar, an admitted liar. not for iraq, that too. but also for politics. when bush fired rumsfeld after the 2006 elections, he was asked why he said one week before that he was not going to fire rumsfeld. bush volunteered he had lied to get reporters to move on to another question and america would not know the truth before the nation voted. >> you and hunt and kyle came in the oval office and hunt asked me the question. one week before the campaign.
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basically, are you going to do something about rums field and the vice president? my comment is they're going to stay on. i didn't want to interject a major statement about this war in the final days of the campaign. so the only way to answer that question and to get you on to another question was to give you that answer. the truth of the matter is, as well, that's one reason i gave the answer -- >> he lied that he would fire whoever was proved to leak valerie plame's identity. he lied about faith-based funding. lied to conceal the office's political schemes. if bush's convictions were firm, what to make of the 2004 campaign, as former bush aide ken mehlman confirmed, that the bush administration put gay initiatives on the ballot.
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this after a gay man gave his life to save the bush white house. mckinnon resurrects knew that no one knew how america's faith and democracy would be tested on september 11th. the man and the country changed forever. if the country changed forever, bush's faith must have failed the test. changing the country was exactly what bin laden wanted. bin laden hated us for our freedoms, mr. bush told us. mr. bush set about removing our freedoms, spying on suspects without the warrants demand by faith in freedom and democracy, imprisoning suspects without the guarantee of faith and democracy. torturing suspects using techniques learned from the enemy. he continues, george w. bush became the president we needed in one of the worst moments in history. we momentarily saw our fear
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reflected back in the president's eyes. we then saw his resolve and took comfort in his strength. the fear we remember. and the resolve -- he stood on the rubble, literally standing on a pire and voweded to avenge the dead. six months later, he was truly not that concerned about bin laden. >> i don't know where he is. i repeat what i said. i truly am not that concerned about him. >> four years later, his resolve led him to endorse pakistan's truce with an al qaeda safe haven. the very thing he was asking american soldiers to die to prevent. this after abc news reported pakistan allowed bin laden to remain free. the rest of us return to our lives, much as they had before 9/11. bush never did, never. >> i call upon all nations to do
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everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. thank you. now watch this drive. >> quoting again, he vowed to do everything in his power to keep us safe and he did. starting then. but not counting americans who died in consequent terrorist attacks on u.s. soil. never mind that his vow you to do everything in his power violated his vow not to exceed constitutional limit on his power. more from mr. mckinnon. he continued to promote human liberty, human rights and human dignity in iraq and afghanistan. the shadow cast by mr. bush's long indeed. until republicans like mckinnon start putting mr. bush not on billboards but in campaign ads, we must conclude however much americans miss mr. bush, the true shadow cast by his presidency is who and what we miss because of bush. what and who we could have been.
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the department of justice opens investigations on the cabby attack and the arson at the murfreesboro mosque. first two tweets of the day in sequence. from forest knight. cards 0 had-5, pu joujolpujols. really, 0-5?
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i don't feel the baseball. let's play "oddball." we begin in azerbaijan where another shot has been thrown in the world's tallest unsupported flag pole. unsupported meaning it's not on a building. it's over ten feet high at its base. the president spoke at the ceremony and helped to raise a 2,600-square foot magazinflag. when it was first built, the president was not sure people would support the venture you. to long ond, england. this is being billed as the first edible art exhibit. visitors are allowed to take out their art and appreciate the art. masterpiece. all the proceeds from cake britain will go to a children's
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hospice charity. all participants will answer the question, cake or death? to china. it looks like bambi is off the wagon. this real life suds mcduff drinks two bottles of beer a day. so far the deer seems to be healthy with no ill effects of alcohol. as september approaches, he needs to back off the booze. he is an alternate for santa's sleigh and they have a red-nosed deer. it's offensive to build an islamic cultural center but it's not offensive to stab a cabby or or near 9/11. next. and working with people who are changing the face of business in america. after 25 years in the aviation business, i kind of feel like if you're not having fun at what you do, then you've got the wrong job. my landing was better than yours. no, it wasn't. yes, it was. was not.
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yes, it was. what do you think? take one of the big ones out? nah.
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there have already been charges filed against a man who attacked a muslim cab driver in new york city. federal authorities had been investigating a suspicious fire at a tennessee muslim center construction site. in our third story, the department of justice is investigating both incidents as possible hate crimes.
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the actual incensetivity. the department of justice has opened investigations into the cabby stabbing and the murfreesboro mosque. the department pj said, i think it's pretty clear that there's a hate crime investigation under way, referring to the incident in murfreesboro. four pieces of heavy construction equipment were set ablaze on thursday with the help of an accelerant. as with the attack of the cab driver in new york, the man has been charged under state law. at the site of the proposed community city in new york city, a planneded protest against it for its insensetivity.
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they write, we stand together in expressing our opposition to staging a high profile, public protest rally on september 11th when so many others priorities will properly be focused on prayer and other reflection in the pechk to hold any other type of protest rally on september 11 would be inappropriate. they say they are not expressing support for the community center itself. let's turn to the co-author of that letter, david payne, creator of day of service. jay winick lost his younger brother, glen, in the collapse of the trade center towers. thank you for your time tonight. we quoted part of that letter. if you would express your intent, that would be best.
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>> 9/11 has always been a sacred day. our organization, my good deed, worked for the last 8 1/2 years to establish 9/11 as a day of remembrance so that the community would have a day of peace. we don't feel it's appropriate to have street protests and rallies on that day when so many families are really struggling with just the issue of the loss of their loved ones. >> you don't dispute anybody's right to protest. your objection is not about what this protest is about, just a protest about something on that day, correct? >> yeah. it's really about the timing of the rallies. you know, we've written to both individuals and organizations that are for the mosque as well as against it. we've said, look, you know, 9/11 is a day that needs to be
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reserved for the 9/11 community. do it on another day. yeah, we don't have any problem with people expressing their point of view. certainly, we don't begrudge 9/11 family members themselves that feel it's important for them to be there. >> have you gotten any response from the organizers of the protest scheduled for this 9/11 against the park 51 project? >> yeah, we have. you know, we talked to the organizers that are running the rally in opposition to the mosque. they've initially rejected our request. we sent them a second letter today asking them to reconsider. we talked to the organization that is considering running a rally to protest bigotry and hate. we've asked them to do the same thing. maybe stand down for that one day. we really do need that. >> the nature of what's going to winds up at the ground zero site when this is finally concluded has been an issue since that day, since september 11th, 2001.
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obviously there's going to be commerce, it is the middle of the city. originally the thought at g gettysburg was leave it alone but they needed it for tourism. just to give some room and some peace to grieving family members and people who lost friends, let's not exclude them, so they know they will have that one day each year to be with themselves and their memories? >> i think that's exactly -- you said it very, very well. we all get caught up in these very important and serious topics that do result in a lot of controversy. but for the average 9/11 family member, this is a widow that may be waking up every 9/11 and once again is dealing with the fact her husband didn't come nine years ago. she's having to deal with the issues of helping her family and children through that.
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it is a very difficult thing. i have to it tell you, i've been working with the 9/11 community for nine years. these people are heroes. they are absolute heroes. they've gone through hell. they needed a day where they can have peaceful reflection and remembrance. we all owe that to them. my goodness. we fight every day of the year. we can't we just have one day where we can set aside our differences? you remember back in 2008, our negotiation called on both presidential candidates at the time, senators mccain and then senator obama to pull their campaign ads for the date and they did it. i think that's what we're looking for. >> particularly this year. on top of everything else, it's a saturday. david paine. great thanks and good luck with this prohibit. john bolton running for gop. can you imagine the debates, the animal magnetism of the
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mustache? another night with beck as he the televangelist attacks learning stuff. and trying to push the tea party candidate out just because he seems to have embelleished his record as a kansas police officer. hey can i play with the toys ? sure, but let me get a little infortion first. for broccoli, say on for toys, say two. ys ! the system can't process your response at this time. what ? please call back between 8 and 5 ceral standard time. he's in control. gobye. even kids ow it's wrong to give someone the run around.
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a state republican party puts out a press release based on a rumor they think they heard on talk radio. next such since the man who made a joke about my dead mother, revealed himself to be a televangelist, we welcome you to another edition of "saint beck as in wreck." cardinal beck-a-lou, call him what you will. from time to time, we'll point out his more egregious mistakes. okay, pope beck-a-dickt. you're going after education now? >> our children are being submerged in the following the of communism and lies.
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i tell you this not to get you angry but to steel your determination. you must steel yourself. you must know what is true and then rely on divine prove dennis. how very kim jong-il of you. or should i say it, mao is the england now, isn't he? re-education. america, while you have been working hard, while you have been busting your butt, while you have thought that we all generally agree on things, we have been setting up re-education camps. we call them universities. >> this is, of course, the theme of the evangelist dating back to the caves. it was highlighted at the scopes monkey trial by william glennings beck ancestor. education and science, bad. guessing and superstition, good. but in the case of beck of art,
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a bullet in the hole of his home, where his brother was. nobody injured. he fired because he saw a space alien. this was 2:30 in the afternoon. he admitted he's been smoking marijuana since that morning. the runner-up, an oxygen shortage in wisconsin this week such he said he had a held a super secret meeting with nancy pelosi. within an hour, the republicans had to withdraw the press release because there was no fund-raiser. mr. wellhouse, who is apparently paid money to be a spokesperson for the wisconsin gop revealed his source for his story. he heard about it on a milwaukee talk radio station which had in turn heard about it via an anonymous e-mail posted on one of its blogs.
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imagine for a moment a
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presidential debate in the not so distant future. republican candidates vying for the nomination. first 45 minutes spent on the introductions trying to top how the last one praised ronald reagan. then opening remarks ranging from we're not going to eliminate violent conflict until homosapiens cease to exist to, can i call you john? the pawlenty/bolton/palin debate. mr. pawlenty ordering state agencies to declare state agency involvement -- decline that, however. the group asked mr. pawlenty to apply for a health care grant that could potentially benefit consumers. small wonder that recent polling showing the majority of minnesotans wouldn't vote for
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pawlenty for president, referring romney. showing concern over his frequent out of state travel for the greater good. >> i'm trying to get out of the country and influence elections for 2010 but you i think it's important work. >> what a guy. pawlenty has made five trips to iowa since last november. which brings us to the former governor. she'll be headlining the governor banquet, which she blew off last year. then there is the proverbial dark horse. former u.n. ambassador john bolton. if you're wondering where he would be on foreign policy, he previously advocated obamaing iran and nu bombing iran and nuking chicago. the last we think he made in jest. >> are you running for fwrchb in
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governor in 2012? >> i don't think anybody in politics should worry about that until after the elections this fall. i think they're so important. >> you're not saying no? >> i'm not saying no, that's right. >> now to call in the founding editor of huffington post. thanks for your time tonight. candidate john bolton. i thought conventional wisdom was that americans liked their presidents free of facial hair and not nuking people. >> forget obamaibombing the mid east, we wanted to nuke the u.n. he's not exactly electable. >> bolton might be -- let's use crazy -- he could probably draw a city by city map of the middle east by free-hand.
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mrs. palin did not know who mrs. thatcher was. this is the kind of debate i'd pay to go see. >> i thought it would be possible to top the 2008 debate with brown back on darwin and tancre tancredo. it's almost enough to make one pine for duncan hunter. >> he's trying to go on the anti-health care reform kick. is that going to keep him in this sort of upper echelon of the republican possibilities? >> i don't see it. when you're running to the right of the chamber of commerce, it's not putting you in the wheelhouse of electability. aren't 90% of republicans against health care reform? it doesn't separate him from the pack. >> interesting thing about palin and the reagan day dinner. no headliner has gone to be president nor the presidential nominee for that matter. other than presumably the check,
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what's in it for her, do we know? >> i don't think we can use historical precedent when it comes to palin. no presidential candidate ever had their own presidential show with kate gosselin hosting and a daughter on "dancing with the stars." >> the polling that puts mitt romney ahead of the pack, do you let the others slug it out, figure out how to erase all memories of what you did for health care reform in massachusetts and come up with a way you were for it before you were against it? >> absolutely. if you have bolton and palin going at it, it will be making him look like the second coming of winston churchill. the only problem is how does he run against himself such that's his biggest competition. >> we've heard newt gingrich. i don't think he wants to be president. he may want to be king. where does he fit in all this? is he just hoping somehow you he'll come out looking good by
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comparison? >> he'll absolutely raise the iq of the group by a number of points but lower the moral compass. he has big ideas and loathsome personal behavior. don't you think he's coming unhinged a little earlier, comparing the muslims to nazis? a little early in the game for that. >> not his game. the man we discussed going for deification under mckinnon, president bush, is he going to support somebody or he's not interested in this whole thing anymore? >> one word, jeb. he's made it clear he doesn't want to get involved anymore, right? he said that muslims and islam was a religion of peace. but now you in the whole mosque controversy, he's empty. i don't think he will get involved unless jeb's in the race. >> thanks for your time. >> my pleasure, keith. >> that's september 2nd. the 2,680th day since president bush declared victory in

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